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Latest Update: 12 April 2000 ........................................... Web Site Version

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Entries to date from submitters, starting June 1999:
- entry for ANDERSON, Robert A., 3 June 1999
- entry for NEIL, Ailsa and John, 3 June 1999
- entry for STUIJTS, Birthe, 3 June 1999
- entry for JONES, Vicky, 15 August 1999
- entry for dePARRY, Betsy, 15 August 1999
- entry for SANDKUEHLER, Michael, 15 August 1999
- entry for SUHR, Monika KLUGE, 15 August 1999
- entry for GIRKE, Thora, 7 September 1999
- entry for GRÜTZNER (GRUETZNER / GRUTZNER), Dieter, 7 September 1999
- entry for SCHINDLER, Dennis, 7 September 1999
- entry for DIAMOND, Dianne, 29 October 1999
- entry for FARBER, Bronwyn, 29 October 1999
- entry for FARMER, Joseph A., 29 October 1999
- entry for FEISTEL, Rainer, 29 October 1999
- entry for FLUHART, Danny, 29 October 1999
- entry for KLATT, Jürgen (Jurgen) R., 29 October 1999
- entry for LAMICH, Bonita, 29 October 1999
- entry for MANUEL, Jayne, 29 October 1999
- entry for MNOOKIN, Robert H., 29 October 1999
- entry for ROMMEISS, Wolfgang, 29 October 1999
- entry for SCHOENFELD, Donald R., 29 October 1999
- entry for SMEE, Margaret GLIER, 29 October 1999
- entry for WALTON, Brad, 29 October 1999
- revision for KLATT, Jürgen (Jurgen) R., 18 November 1999
- new eMail and additions for FEISTEL, Rainer, 15 January 2000
- revised entry for MNOOKIN, Robert H., 12 April 1999


ANDERSON, Robert A.
411 North Stevens Street, Chewelah, Washington 99109- USA
eMail address: bobalori@triax.com

I am seeking any information (birth, marriage, parents, other brothers and sisters) of locomotive engineer foreman Paul WUTTKE, and his wife, Theresia HOFFMANN. They lived at Kattowitz, Schlesien, Prussia Germany in the late 1800's and in Glatz, Schlesien in the early 1900's. He was born about 1850 and died about January 1904. She was born about March 1853 and died April 1926. Their children were Theodore WUTTKE, born March 1877: Paul Carl Max WUTTKE, born October 1878 and moving to U.S.A.; Max Carl Otto WUTTKE, born June 1880; Martha Theresia Louise WUTTKE, born April 1882, and moving to Berlin; Emil Alfred WUTTKE, born August 1883, and also moving to Berlin; Alfred Franz WUTTKE, born January 1885; and Elizabeth WUTTKE, born January 1887. Any information about the above, decendants of the decendents, or living relatives would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


DIAMOND, Dianne
eMail address: leap@bigpond.net.au

I am researching my great-great -grandparents Carl August MULLER / MUELLER born around 1824 at Schatz, Silesia. He married Carolina Bertha SEIPOLT (born around 1837, Germany). They arrived at the Port of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia on the ship "Neumuhlen" on 23 July 1858 and their first child Auguste Paulina was born in Tinpot, South Australia 8 November 1858. Other children born around the same area of Mt. Barker were Friedrich Wilhelm (baptized 17 September 1861), Carolina Clara (baptized 18 April 1863), Johann August (baptized 02 April 1868), Carolina Bertha (baptized 12 August 1871) and Carl Benjamin (baptized 25 September 1874). In the 1880's the MULLER family moved to Victoria to take up land. I would really like any information on Schatz, and any relatives of either Carl August MULLER or Carolina Bertha SEIPOLT. Thanks.


FARBER, Bronwyn
eMail address: farbers5@earthlink.net

I am seeking any information on two brothers, Johann Gottlieb HIRT / HIRTH and Johann Gottfried HIRT / HIRTH, from Lauban, Schwarzbach. Johann Gottfried attended school in Upper Flinsberg and graduated in 1840. I believe their parents were Johann Ehrenfried Hirt and Johanne Christiane SCHEBERLEIN. They emigrated to New York in 1851 and then on to Australia in 1853. I would be pleased to hear from anyone with any knowledge of these men.


FARMER, Joseph A.
1817 South Thompson Drive, Madison, Wisconsin, 53716-, USA
eMail address: jfarmer@commerce.state.wi.us
(Roman Catholic)

Peter Sebastian FRACH is from Brinnitz, Kries Oppeln. The village is named Brynica today. He was born (Catholic) in 1886 in Brinnitz. His naturalization papers state his parents were Sebastian FRACH and Frances JAWLIZA. We know he had a sister that did not emigrate. Where can we get access to records for Brinnitz? Thank you.


FEISTEL, Rainer
eMail address: rainer.feistel@gmx.de

I am looking for ancestors of August FEISTEL, born 15 August 1844 at Niederhermsdorf, died 28 August 1903 at Eisersdorf. His wife was Maria NENTWIG, born 15 September 1849, died 8 November 1918 at Eisersdorf. Thier daughter in law was Anna REIPRICH, born 11 February 1886 at Weisstein. All locations are around Waldenburg and Glatz, Silesia.
Joe Riemer's Note: I believe that the first location would be more correctly spelled Nieder Hermsdorf (according to my copy of the Schlesien gazetteer by Kowallis).
Rainer's 15 January 2000 addition: The first location is probably Niederhannsdorf (near Glatz) instead. Other common spellings are Nieder Hannsdorf for this village or Nieder Hermsdorf (near Waldenburg) for Niederhermsdorf.


FLUHART, Danny
eMail address: fluhartd@bellatlantic.net

I am seeking information on ancestors and descendants of the following: Gottfried HERBERG (1827-1911), resident of Brokendorf, Silesia, son of Josef HEBERG and Apollonig BROSIG. Constantine HERDE, 1849-1925, resident of Koppernig, Silesia, son of Franz HERDE and Marie PREUSNER. Johann BEYER (1873-1947), resident of Kratscheim / Burgfeld, Leobschnetz, Oberschlesien, son of Johannes BEYER and Maxmilianna KRUSCHKA. Maria BARTON, daughter of Peter BARTON, born 1851, a resident of Waissak, Germany and Marianna ZGRAJE, resident of Tacheidt, Germany.


GIRKE, Thora
eMail address: girket@union.edu

I am looking for information on Robert Emil Friedrich GIRKE [possibly] GIERKE, oldest son of Karl and Christiann (geborn ROSE) GIRKE. He was born January 1845 (maybe at Fraustadt) and died at Brewslaw (webmaster's note: Breslau??) between 1906 and 1914). He was a banker at Breslaw. I am looking for his brothers. I am also looking for information on August GIRKE, born 12 March 1846 and died 17 April 1919 at Kreis Oels. He was married to Elizabeth GLATZ GIRKE


GRÜTZNER (GRUETZNER / GRUTZNER), Dieter
eMail address: Humanistischer.Verband.NRW@gmx.net

I am seeking informations of the family of Johann GRÜTZNER (GRUETZNER / GRUTZNER) married to Maria and geborn Kokoschka. They lived in Königshütte (Koenigshuette / Konigshutte) and had these children: Johann - born 8 October 1888; Georg; Philipp; Anna and Rosalie. Two of these children emigrated to the U.S.A. Any information about the above, decendants of the decendents, or living relatives would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.


JONES, Vicky
eMail address: VicJon@aol.com

I'm seeking information about August J. JACOB, born 1 September 1854 at Tschepplau (Krzepielow). His parents are Gottlieb and Elisabeth (RASCHEL) JACOB. He had three sisters and five or six brothers, don't know names. The FHL doesn't have records from this town. Any suggestions are welcome. Thank you.


KLATT, Jürgen (Jurgen) R.
Dorfstrasse 5, D29362 Hohne bei Celle, Germany
eMail address: JRKlatt@t-online.de

I am looking for the parents of my ancestor Robert Julius Heinrich OLDEKOPP / OLDEKOP / OLDECOP, born at Glogau 23 January 1804 (or 25. January 1804), died at Freystadt, Schlesien 25 January 1857, Evangelisch. His sister was Mathilde Sophia Amalia OLDEKOPP, born: Glogau 23 or 25 January 1804, Evangelisch. Their father could be Ludewig OLDEKOPP. His name is noted at the "Taufurkunde" of his children and he worked in 1804 at Glogau as Proviant-Controlleur; or was he Friedrich Wilhelm OLDEKOP - he worked at Glogau in 1780 as Justitiarius; or was he Friedrich Wilhelm Albrecht Ludewig von OLDECOP, born Wesel, Rhein 21 July 1750, Evangelish Reformed (Deutsches Geschlechterbuch, Band 180, S. 374)? Or is it always the same person? His wife was Sophie KINZEL / KINZELN. Her father was probably Johann August KINTZEL / KINZEL, Syndikus and Secretarius at Reinerts, Schlesien.

I am also looking for the parents of my ancestor Josef Von BORNST / Von BORNSTDT / Von BORNSTEDT, married: 1 July 1816 at Langenhof Kreis Oels with Gräfin Caroline Beate Marianne Von GESSLER, born 24 March 1790, died at Deutsch- Wartenberg 14 April 1824 (Source Literature: Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels Band 35, 1965, C.A.Starke Verlag. He was a First (Premier) Lieutenant at the 7. Husaren-Regiment of Prussia, dimitted 1818 as a Rittmeister. Which line of the Bornstedt families does he belong to? Is he from Gross Dubensko near Ornontowitz / Gleiwitz ? His daughter, Elise (Julie ?) Von BORNSTEDT (born before 14 April 1824, died 7 October 1902, married Louis GERICKE) had lived there.

LAMICH, Bonita
eMail address: bnglamich@a-o.com

I am searching for the 1831 Catholic marriage and/or family record of Anton LAMICH who married Marie HAUPT at Ratibor, Silesia. This is marriage is listed on the IGI at the LDS Family History Library. My husband's grandfather, Paul Lamich, born 29 June 1878 is the son of Julia KALKA and Franz (Frank) LAMICH. Julia, Frank and Paul LAMICH emigrated from Silesia to Chicago, Illinois in 1879. The LAMICH name is not very common and I think there may be a connection as Anton would be the right age to be Frank's father. Any information would be appreciated.


MANUEL, Jayne
3410 County Road 190, Rosharon, Texas 77583- USA
eMail addresses: jm3011@aol.com or manuel@paradigmtech.com

I am seeking information on the STEINER family and several others who emigrated to Victoria County, Texas 1848-1852. Carl STEINER, his wife Victoria Augusta SPANIG STEINER, their 3 daughters Anna Marie, Minna and Augusta, families KOBITZ, JAESCHE, WOLFF, KORNFUHRER, TSCHOPE and VOGT. Josef KOBITZ's wife THERESA may have been sister to Carl or Victoria STEINER. Carl STEINER was born 22 February 1812 at Schwammelwitz, Neisse, Oberschlesien and attended gymnasium at Neisse. He was also in the Prussian Infantry and was discharged in 1845. The STEINER family was Roman Catholic; Victoria STEINER and her daughters as well as the other families were passengers on the Bremen bark "Von Vienke", which landed first at Galveston, Texas and then at Indianola, Texas 16 December 1852. The ship's passenger list shows the KOBITZ and Josef KORNFURHER families to be from Grottkau, the STEINER, WOLFF, Benjamin KORNFURHER, and VOGT familes from Kamitz and the TSCHOPE family from Alttomnitz. The JAESCHE families were from Patschkau and Reyersdorf. Any information on the STEINER family would be greatly appreciated as well as information on any connections to the other families mentioned. Thank you very much.


MNOOKIN, Robert H.
Samuel Williston Professor of Law, Hauser Hall 416, Harvard Law School Cambridge MA 02138-, USA eMail address: mnookin@law.harvard.edu
Fax 617-496-3777

I am searching for information on my great-grandfather, Max SITTENFELD, who was born at Breslau in May 1854, and emigrated to Buffalo New York in 1882. In Buffalo he started a barrel and bottle business. Any information about Sittenfeld's from Breslau would be appreciated. My great grandparents were Jewish. Max's spouses name was Rosalie Falk (sometimes referred to as Sara). I suspect Max and Rosalie were married around 1880. Any further tips would be much appreciated. Next March I hope to go to Breslau (Wroclaw) and I'd love to contact someone ahead of time who might do some research for me.
Webmasters Note: According to Reference 5 below, a Ida Sittenfeld married a Dr. SPEIER at Polonisch Leipe on 2 May 1821 and a Rosal. Sittenfeld married a Dr. FREUND at Grottkau on 5 August 1827. Both of these marriages predate Breslau in 1854 by a generation and it is thus possible that either Ida or Rosal. was the mother of Max, as this appears to be a somewaht rare surname. Also, bothof these locations would appear to have had a Sittenfeld line living there at that time (1821, 1827), as most marriages occured at the home town of the bride.

FYI, there are Jewish records for Grottkau (1797-1874) available on two FHL microfilms. For Breslau, in addition to the 1938 "minority census", the 1791 "family book" for Jewish families there (FHL microfilm #1184403) and the Jewish "Matrikel Register" (1760-1940) of vital data is available on 27 FHL microfilm. You best start doing your research at your nearest FHC, or obtain professional assistance in the Salt lake City area to do so.


NEIL, Ailsa and John
Electron Microscope Unit, La Trobe University, Bendigo, Australia
Fax (054) 447-476
eMail address j.neil@bendigo.latrobe.edu.au

I am seeking information on the family of Anton RIGOLL and Margaretta KUDLA (or RUDLA), married 1829 at Oppeln on the Oder. Margaretta the daughter of Christian KUDLA and Anna NOVACK was born in 1819 in Breslau. Anton and Margaretta's children (all surnamed RIGOLL) were Mary Bernadine Helena, born 1840; Ottilie Bertha Agnes, born 1841; Julius Herman Anton, born 1843; Anna
Margaretta Magdalena (my great-grandmother on my father's side), born 1844; Richard Anton Edward, born 1846 and Leonhard Rudolph Reinhold, born 1849. The family emigrated to Australia in 1850, and settled at St.Arnaud, Victoria. Anton was a butcher. Any information of whatever kind would be most appreciated.


dePARRY, Betsy
403 South Fifth Avenue, Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103-, USA
eMail address: betsy@annarborbuilders.com

I am searching for any information about my great-grandfather, Franz KURKA, born 31 December 1941 at Breslau (now Wroclaw). We have no information about his parents or siblings, but do know that he served in the Prussian army and fought in the Battle of Koenigratz in 1866. We believe his brother fought for Austria in the same battle and the two brothers exchanged rings on the battlefield. He married Marie KOCH, born July 1953 at Prague. Whether they married in Breslau or Vienna is unclear, but we do know that they lived in Vienna at the time of their childrens' births and that they left Vienna in 1891 for New York. I
would appreciate any assistance in helping me to find records relating to Franz. Many thanks.


ROMMEISS, Wolfgang
eMail address: Rommeiss@zedat.fu-berlin.de

I am looking for anchestors of Reinhold Karl Robert HENTSCHEL, born 1859 at Sulau, district Militsch-Silesian. His parents were Christian Hentschel and Rosalie WINKLER.


SANDKUEHLER, Michael
eMail address: sandy-marl@t-online.de

I am looking for Information about my ancestors which came from Upper Silesia near the town of Slawentzitz. This town is between Oppeln and Gleiwitz. Blasius KUCHARCZYK was born in 1791 at Libischau; Agnes CZIESLIK was his wife. Joseph MALY was born before 1770 at Klein-Althammer; Magdalena SCHEWERDA was his wife
George GLOMB was born before 1790 and lived at Medar; Marianna KUCHARCZIK was his wife. Franz DZIUBA from Jacobswalde was born about 1800; Catharina STARCZYNSKI was his wife. Nicolay MICHALSKY was from Klein-Althammer and was born before 1780; Theresia WROBEL was his wife. Vallentin SCHMID lived at Klein-Althammer at about 1760; Susanna KROYKY was his wife.


SCHINDLER, Dennis T.
eMail address: dschindler@techplus.com

August Joesph SCHINDLER, born at Breslau in 1873 emigrated to England in 1900 and then on to Canada in 1900-1904?. No family information passed to next generation. I am looking for research tips on narrowing down search on August Schindler's parents and siblings in Schliesen prior to 1900 as basis for research. Internet research appears sketchy. If looking for assistance on this challenging area, I would be willing to help. I love a research challenge. Any assistance you may be able to provide I would be grateful.


SCHOENFELD, Donald R.
eMail address: schoen@freewwweb.com

I'm searching for information on Edward SCHONFELDT, born 1 November 1825 at Zuckmantel, Austria (or possibly Cukmantl, Germany). An Aunt stated his name was Edward E. CAMBER. Two other birth years indicated on separate records are for 1824 and 1826. His parents and wife are unknown. He emigrated to the United States in 1851.
Joe Reiman's Note: According to the Sclesien Gazetteer by Kowallis, there was a Zuckmantel located in Freiwaldau county, CSR. This was part of Silesia at one time.

SMEE, Margaret GLIER
632 Duncan Road Dunoon, NSW Australia 2480
eMail address: msmee10@scu.edu.au

I am presently preparing a webpage entitled the Breslau GLIERS Family Mystery. The aim is to try to locate any relatives of our family. My grandfather Joseph Richard GLIER was born in Breslau in 1883 and lived at 98 to 100 Klosterstrasse. St. Mauritius Catholic church was down the road. As a teenager he ran away to sea, joined a British East Indiaman and never went back to Silesia again. He sailed around Cape Horn 7 times and finally as World War I approached became an Australian citizen and married here in Sydney in 1913. His father's name was Otto GLIER and his mother's name was Elizabeth nee MERKELT. He had an Uncle William, an Aunt Marie, an Uncle Alfred and they appeared to try to keep in contact with Joseph writing to Annandale in Sydney in 1911 and 1921 at least. I don't know if he wrote back. In 1944 I think Wilhelm GLIER owned a book shop in Breslau. The family were probably evacuated west sometime in 1944 or 1945 when the Nazis turned Breslau into 'Fortress Breslau' and the Russian Army attacked. We think that sometime in the 1950s a nephew may have written to grandfather about a possible sponsorship. We don't know if he answered the letter. He was very embarrassed about his 19th century antique German. In 1992 I went to Wroclaw (formerly Breslau) and found the address with the old GLIER factories behind a new apartment building that was under construction. The original 3 story J. GLIER building was bombed sometime in WW II? Was I the first GLIER to return since the day my grandfather ran away to sea around 1895? The GLIERS of Breslau may have come to Breslau in the early 19th century, possibly from the mountainous area south. I heard of violin makers from that area that went to New York. Joseph GLIER my great, great grandfather also worked with wood. He had established a furniture, parquet flooring factory in Breslau some time in the 1830s-1840s. Can anyone please help?
Webmaster's Note: There is a good chance that the detailed 3 generation repatriation records for Wilhelm and his family are to be found in the "EWZ" collection (1,900+ FHL microfilms). Three seminal articles on it and how to use it are found in the FEEFHS Journal Volume 6 (1998) - available at US$30.00 postpaid to any address worldwide. There are also significant reference to this collection on this website - use EWZ in the website index

STUIJTS, Birthe
Krefeld, Germany (51 20 North, 6 34 East, GMT+1)
eMail address: stuijts@online-club.de
My web page

The following I know: Johann Friedrich SCHIRMER died after 1865. He was married to Maria Elisabeth GAMKE, who died at Weßig Wessig, Kreis Sprottau, Schlesien; now Wysoka, Poland]) on 28 August, 1830. From this marriage was born Johann Ernst Heinrich, born at Weßig (Wessig, Kreis Sprottau, Schlesien; now Wysoka, Poland) 28 August 1830, died in Werdohl (Deutschland = Germany) 12 August 1906. Wessig is near Primkenau. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe J.H. SCHIRMER had a farm at Weßig.

Now I would like to proceed with my research. I would like to get more information on the parents of both M.E. GAMKE and J.F. SCHIRMER. Further I would like to obtain a copy of their marriage certificate & details, the death certificate of M.E. GAMKE and J.F. SCHIRMER. As he was still living at Wessig in 1865, I presume he also died there). And did J. E. H. SCHIRMER have any brothers or sisters? His mother died with his birth, so he must have been the youngest, but maybe J.F. SCHIRMER married again???) And where did they go?

I have never researched in Schlesien, I have no idea were to start and where to find this kind of information. I would appreciate any help, that could bring my research a little bit further. I might once go there, so also hints of archives, who could have some info of value for me, or where I could write to, are welcome. Thanks in advance for any help! Kind regards from Germany.
Webmaster's notes: For ypur information, there are 8 Wysoka listings within the borders of Poland today. While several of them are listed in the FHL Catalog (FHLC), none are shown with Kreis Sprottau. There is no Primkenau in the FHLC either. I do not have a good map handy nor the Kowallis gazetteer. A quick scan of the Silesia Map in the FEEFHS Map Room did not reveal either location.

In your case, with multiple listings of the name of your location, and without knowing the specific Polish gmina, parafia or powiat your specific one is located with, I cannot help you. There are 89 Polish archiwum locations in existence, and we have access to the 1998 catalog of their religious and civil vital record holdings. But does the one you might consider for research have holdings that include any church books or civil registration records of potential interest to you?

SUHR, Monika KLUGE
eMail address: suhrcrest@yahoo.com

I am looking for parents and siblings of Ferdinand DOSTERSCHILL, born 25 January 1841 at Ratibor Schlesien. He died 17 March 1902 at Breslau, Schlesien. Also, how can I establish e-mail contact with someone in the Breslau area? I speak German but not Polish. Thank you very much.


WALTON, Brad
email address: dnotlaw@bellatlantic.net

I am seeking relatives or information regarding families STRECHENBACH and MUHLBERG. They lived at Breslau and Striegau, Germany (now Wroclaw and Strzegom, Poland) during the late 1800s and early 1900s then moved to Berlin, Germany. The names are Helene Strechenbach (died 1968 or 1969) and Gertrude Strechenbach (born 17 August 1914 - died 1972). Gertrude married Erwin Muhlberg.


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Research Aids and Suggestions:

  1. Unser Oberschlesin: This is the German language publication of the Landsmannschaft der Oberschlesier e. V. Bundesverband of Wiesbaden, Germany. This 16 page newspaper type publication (5 columns, 13 1/2 x 17 inches) was founded in 1950 with ISSN #0343-5113. It is not found in the FHL at Salt Lake City. It includes printed reports of activities of German organizations representing the following Oberschlesien Stadts and Kreise: Bielitz, Hindenburg, Gross Strehlitz, Cosel, Rosenberg, Loben-Guttentag, Oppein, Wanderer (Gielwitz / Beuthen), Königshütte, Laurahütte and Tarnowitz.

    While only carrying a few obituaries, it does provide details on Bundestreffens (gatherings/reunions). It provides monthy lists of birthday congratulations to dozens of subscribers, listing their name, birthday and current city or town of residence in Germany. It also contains ads of professionals willing to conduct research in Oberschlesien. To subscribe, send your request for current subscription price by postal mail to:

    Unser Oberschlesiien
    Postfach 22 29
    65012 Wiesbaden
    GERMANY

  2. Die Eheschliessungen in den Schlesischen Provinzialblättern (1785-1849) published in 1994 by Verlag Degner and edited by Uwe Kambach is now available at the Family History Library as a book. It covers about 40,000 persons (19,483 marriages). It lists husband's name, profession, place of marriage, wife's name, marriage date and source of the article

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