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Entries from submitters for the month of May 1999:
- entry for BAKER, Leah TONDERA (Chris), 3 May 1999 - entry for DANTZMAN, Emily, 3 May 1999
- entry for DAVENPORT, Elizabeth, 3 May 1999
- entry for DAVIDSON, Ron and Isolde, 3 May 1999
- entry for DOBSCH, Tommy Frederick, 3 May 1999
- entry for DUPILKA, Reba, 3 May 1999
- entry for HUPPERT, Norman K., Sr., 3 May 1999
- entry for KESSEL, Donald E., 3 May 1999
- entry for KLEIN, Bill, 3 May 1999
- entry for KRETCHMAN, Susan, 3 May 1999
- entry for NOWAK, Judy, 3 May 1999
- entry for O'KANE, Grace, 3 May 1999
- entry for PHELON, Heidi R., 3 May 1999
- entry for ROTHE, Charles J., 3 May 1999
- entry for SHANE, Edgar, 3 May 1999
- entry for SOBIERAJSKI, Mickey Joe, 3 May 1999
- entry for TAYLOR, Marie, 3 May 1999
- entry for WYSTRACH, Thomas, 3 May 1999


BAKER, Leah TONDERA (Chris)
eMail address: agiedc@itouch.net
(Roman Catholic)

I am looking for information regarding my paternal grandfather and his immediate family. We have no records of any sibling or parent of Stephan Johann TONDERA and we want to learn of our heritage. I have the following information, but have come to a dead-end and my limitation of Polish inhibits me as well. His name was Stephan Johann TONDERA born 22 December 1892 at Borsigwerk, Hindenburg, Upper Silesia. His birth certificate states The Seal of the Civil Registry and stamped receipt No. M98 for 0.60 mark. His birth certificate is No. 42. Further research reveals that his parents were Franz Joseph (a known supervisor at coal mine in Borsigwerk) and Josepha SACHLOD Tondera, midwife was Frau Sophie Prukop KRZOSKA. Known siblings of Stephan Johann are Carl born 1886 and killed in WW I fighting for Germany; a sister of whom we have no information about other than she became a nun and her name changed to Marie; Thiophil born 1894 and killed in WW I fighting for Germany who had 2 sons who both were killed (1 in war and 1 in coal mine.) Family was Catholic. Hindenburg may have been called Oberschlesien, Germany (from my aunt's info?) I have received a Genealogical Guide and Atlas of Silesia by Otto K. Kowallis which has indicated that Bosigwerk is Polish name of German town of Hindenburg and is located in District (Kreis) Hindenberg #108 (Polish name of Zabrze) of County Oppeln of Quadrant 3 p. 79, east of then Gleiwitz. This is all located in far east Upper Silesia about 18.8 degrees longitude and (50.2) latitude. TONDERA emigrated from Hamburg, Germany to New York about 5 July 1914 during the infamous influenza epidemic, as a German Merchant Marine. He then traveled to Galveston Bay, Texas where he jumped ship and walked to Waco, TX. He married at Perry, TX to Ottillie Marie PURSCHE in December 1916. He had 7 children, Elsie Marie, Ernest Carl, Agnes Elfridea, Annie Olga, Alma Lillie, Steve Ernest, and Harold Boyd. Stephan was conscripted to the US Army Corp Engineer on 19 September 1917 and discharged from Camp Travis in San Antonio, TX on 12 March 1918. He was naturalized as an American Citizen on 13 November 1922. If you can give me some pointers on where to go from here, who to write, what Parish, etc. I would be most appreciative.


DANTZMAN, Emily
eMail address: edantzma@gte.net
(Roman Catholic)

My grandfather, Joseph JÄSCHKE (JAESCHKE), Master shoemaker, and my grandmother, Pauline POHLER, lived at Grottkau, Silesia, Prussia. All their children were born at Grottkau: Herman, born 1857; Anna Carolina (Nina), born 1861; Bertha Auguste, born 1862; and Oscar (my father), born 1870. They were Catholic. I searched all the film available at the FHL for Grottkau, including the marriages. They were not married in Grottkau. My grandmother, Pauline POHLER JÄSCHKE may have been from Weigelsdorf, but when I wrote to the Catholic Parish at Weigelsdorf, the Priest wrote back and said that the book on marriages was missing, although he had other record books.

In 1896 Oscar JÄSCHKE, my father, married his first wife in Strehlen, Silesia. Several years before that time he lived in Breslau on Ottostr. with his mother and sister, Bertha. This
meant that my grandfather, Joseph JÄSCHKE, died at Grottkau before that time. During this time my father, Oscar, was an apprentice learning the furrier trade in Breslau, which was his occupation in Milwaukee, Wisconsin until his death.

In 1902 my father, Oscar JÄSCHKE and his first wife, Anna SCHUBERT, came to Milwaukee, Wisconsin without their three children. Oscar's sister, Bertha, followed in the same
year bringing his three children. My grandmother, Pauline POHLER JÄSCHKE, was deceased before they came to the United States. I would like to locate the parents of Joseph JÄSCHKE and Pauline POHLER. The location of the Apprentice and Guild records for both Breslau and Grottkau would be helpful.


DAVENPORT, Elizabeth
7408 Meadow Valley Lane, St. Louis, Missouri 63119-, USA
eMail address: kingfisher@stlnet.com
(Lutheran)

My ancestor information is deduced from entries in a "Stammbuch" that accompanied him on his migration from Prussia to America.
Greatgrandfather Hugo BEIL was born September 1830 at Guhrau, Silesia (Gora, Poland). Baptism was recorded in military kirchenbuch. Father was described as "Gendarmen Beyl," and entry stated full information in Civil record. About 1855 Hugo married Anna Barbara HINZ, born 1834 at Koenigsberg, Brandenburg. Two daughters were born in Stettin: Hulda Anna baptised 1858 and Elizabeth born 1860. In November 1861 family emigrated via Hamburg to New York. In 1868 they moved to St. Louis, Missouri, where they resided permanently.

"Stammbuch" entries indicate the following: Hugo's mother was named Hulda KRETSCHMER, born circa 1803 and grew up at Breslau (Wroclaw). She had two siblings, Eleanor and Rudolph, also of Breslau. Hugo had a grandmother named Henriette BEIL and an uncle Rudolph BEIL at Hirschberg. A search of Breslau
parish records has not prodced a marriage record for Hulda KRETSCHMER and (?) BEIL. I have two goals: (1) learn more about Hugo BEIL's ancestry and (2) find descendants of his relatives. Any and all suggestions are most welcome.


DAVIDSON, Ron and Isolde
eMail address: ridavids@fgi.net
Evamgelical Lutheran)

I'd like any kind of information--siblings, ancestors, etc., available on the following families, and could provide more detail than listed here: DREINERT, HERBST, KLEIN, TIX (may be DIX), TAUBER, ENDE. These are names from villages in Lower Silesia, vicinity Waldenburg/Walbrzych. All were probably Evangelical Lutheran. Most information is from my mother's family record book; some it off the Web. I'm particularly interested in DREINERT, a relatively rare name apparently--there are only about 40 or so in Germany today, some of which are my immediate family. My mother is a Dreinert, born in the Ruhr from Silesian immigrants. Her father was Julius DREINERT, born 1887 at Nesselgrund near Waldenburg. Her mother was Clara Marta HERBST, born 1887 at Dittersbach near Waldenburg.

Her paternal grandfather was Johan Gotthelf DREINERT b.1833 in Steingrund near Ölse / Oelse. Her paternal grandmother was Johanna Karoline KLEIN, born 1843 at Wäldchen, baptized same year at Charlottenbrunn (she was illegitimate, mother was Maria Rosina KLEIN). Her paternal great grandfather was Johann Gottfried DREINERT (no dates or village) who was a Haussler and Garnhandler; paternal great grandmother was Anna Maria ENDE (no information). My mother's maternal grandfather was Ernst Paul HERBST, born 1861 at Dittersbach, baptized that year at Waldenburg. He was a "Lehrhauer"; maternal grandmother was Ernestine Pauline TIX (maybe DIX) born at Ölse bei Striegau (baptized 1863.) These two were married 26 December 1886 at Ölse.

My mother's maternal great grandfather was Heinrich Gustav HERBST born 1833 at Langwaltersdorf, died 1915 at Dittersbach. His father's name was Carl Gottlieb; maternal great grandmother was Caroline Ernestine TAUBER born 1837 at Zirlau bei Streigau, died 1916 at Dittersbach. Her father was Carl Tauber; mother Anna Rosine ?. I have also found one DREINERT in the Gluckstal Colony archives. He is listed as a Prussian citizen, Paul Dreinert married to Emma PREISS, living at Bergdorf. The listing records only the birth of their son, Arthur Albert Otto, born 26 September 1885. Separately, there is a death listing of Olga Florentine DREINERT, died 3 February 1879, at age 3 yrs., 3 mon., 15 dys., probably at Bergdorf, born at Lodz.

In my Web searches, I have found two present-day DREINERTs in Poland: Barbara DREINERT, author of a technical article at a university in Gliwice, and a Krzytof DREINERT, listed on a discussion group, but whose eMail address is no longer connected. Would love to have contact with these Dreinerts and find how they are related.


DOBSCH, Tommy Frederick
eMail address: TDOBSCH@prodigy.net

August Joseph DOBSCH was born 12 February 1864 to Joseph DOBSCH and Anna (Annie) SELTZER or STELZER at or near Gross-Peterwitz, Kreis (County) Neumarkt, Silesia (Schlesien), Prussia. He had the following brothers and sister; Joseph DOBSCH, Paul DOBSCH, Reinhold DOBSCH, and Auguste (Augusta) DOBSCH. I have searched numerous films at LDS for this area of Silesia and have found DOBSCH's born, baptised, married and died during the 1600s and 1700s, however I can not find a link between my ancestors and them. Please help me locate their ancestors.


DUPILKA, Reba
eMail address: dupilka@quesnelbc.com
(Roman Catholic)

We are searching for any information on the name Dupilka. My grandfather Theodor DUPILKA who emigrated to the USA in 1906. The only information we have is that he indicated that he came from Silesia, was born in 1881, at one time served in the Austrian calvary, spoke Polish and Ukrainian and was Roman Catholic. His brother Michael, born in 1887, emigrated to Canada in 1912. We have contacted some of the 30 odd Dupilka's in the USA and it appears that there are probably three families there. It appears there is only our family in Canada. We have located one family in Slovakia which are related to one of the USA families and they are the only one that they know of in Europe. I have checked the available phone listings in Europe including Germany and there is no record of the name. We would appreciate any information or direction to further research our family.


HUPPERT, Norman K., Sr.,
FAX: (334) 347-8139
eMail address: huppert@snowhill.com

My grandfather was Karl-Carl Gottlieb SCHOLZ, born 30 October 1875. My great-grandfather was August J. SCHOLZ, born 4 February 1853 at Guhrwitz (location name changed in 1937 to Burgweiler), kreis Breslau, province of Schlesien (Silesia), Germany. My great-grandmother was Caroline JANKE (ne SCHOLZ), born 27 September 1848 at Guhrwitz. My great-great grandfather was Gottlieb SCHOLZ, born Unknown, Place: Unknown. My Great-Great-Grandmother was Rosine A. TROWE (ne SCHOLZ), born Unknown, Place Unknown. I am trying to locate birth records, baptism, death records, or other family members from this area. I am also seeking information leading to other family members I may not be aware of.


KESSEL, Donald E.
eMail address; meccacol@jps.net

I have been trying to determine my Grandfather's parents names. I would appreciate any help that you can give me. Reinhold E. KESSEL was born 13 October 1838 and died 24 August 1910. His birth Place was Klein Weschutz or Klein Ujeschutz (name hard to read could be misspelled), Schlesien (Scheisen), Prussia, Germany. He was discharged from the German Army Reserves in 1860. His papers issued in Breslau to leave the country say he is bound for Chicago. The date was hard to read but it appears to be 1860. On 12 December 1893 he became a naturalized citizen at Chicago, Cook County, Illinois.


KLEIN, Bill
eMail address: n0mnt@sheltonbbs.com

I am looking for any information about Johann David WOBUS. He was born October 1801 at Gorlitz, Schlesien. He married Sophie Emilie HEINIMANN in 1837. The only other fact I have is that he is next listed in Liestal, Canton Basel, Switzerland.


KRETCHMAN, Susan
Michigan
eMail address: kret@ismi.net

I am searching for Eduard Hillert, born at Koenigsberg, Poland (now Chojna) in 1884. He married Ida Wanda BUCHHOLZ in 1908. She was born 1884 at Oschersleben, Germany. Eduard was orphaned at age 4; and emigrated from Bremen to USA in July 1911. Ida had a brother Otto BUCHHOLZ who was alive in 1948 living at Beckendorf, Germany; two sons Heinrich and Otto. Ida emigrated to the USA in October 1913 and traveled with daughter Natalie.
Eduard and Ida are my grandparents.


NOWAK, Judy
eMail address: JLDN43@aol.com

I am trying to trace my husband's family. Does anyone have any information on a Carl / Karl NOWAK dating back to pre-1841 or a George NOWAK, born 1841?. These Nowaks came from Klein- Friedrichstabor, Silesia, Germany. Also I am searching
for the POSPISCHIL family, Paul or Sophie dating around 1849. The POSPISCHIL family lived at or near Tschermin, Silesia, Germany. Any help or clue would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks.


O'KANE, Grace
eMail address: IrishInCal@aol.com
(Lutheran)

I am looking for a possible link to my Grandfather. My Great-grandmother's maiden name was FRÜHAUF (FRUEHAUF). There is mention of a retired Austrian Imperial Colonel by the same last name and I am waiting for information from someone in Hamburg that has access to the book that was recommended. My Grandmother was Friedeke FRÜHAUF (FRUEHAUF), who was married to a medical doctor in Koenisgberg. My Grandfather went by the name of Heinrich Von FINKEL, but I suspect this could be a variant of his name. He was born 18 April 1869 if his burial records are correct. My Grandfather was related to the Kaiser, so I think that some record exists. They were Lutheran and if records exist, would appreciate a lookup if possible. Grandpa ran away to Canada when he was 11 yrs. old, and then on to the US where he became a citizen. That is when he dropped the "Von". I would appreciate any information.


PHELON, Heidi R.
eMail address: Iamhydee@aol.com
(Lutheran)

Carl Ernst Robert RUSSMANN was born 28 January 1862 at Baumgarten, Kreis Ohlau, Schlesien; died 1918 at New York City, N.Y. Lutheran. His parents were Johann RUSSMANN and Johanna KIEFERT. They may have died in a cholera epidemic in 1866 and so Carl was brought up by "foster parents". He emigrated to the U.S.A. in August 1884. I can't find him.


ROTHE, Charles J.
eMail address: schwerta@ulster.net
(Lutheran)

I am trying to find out what happened to my great-grandparents, Karl Ernst ROTHE, born 18 March 1851 at Schwerta, Ober Lausits, Kreis Lauban Schlesien (1937 Schwertburg) today Swiecie Poland, and his wife Juliane Pauline TSCHIRCH. born 25 November 1858 at Wunschendorf, Bohmen, Kreis Friedland CSSR. They were married at Schwerta 15 November 1885 and had 3 sons. My grandfather, born 22 April 1889; Herman, born 1900; and Wilhelm, born 1893. Wilhelm was killed 5 October 1917 in World War I. My grandfather and his brother Herman both emigrated to the U.S. I would like to find out what happened to their parents who remained in Schwerta. The family was Lutheran. I had been in contact with a gentleman in Germany by the name of Kurt Michael BEDKERT who was doing research on Kreis Lauban and he was very helpful, but for some reason he stopped all contact about 6 years ago. I have 4 books and many pictures about the village of Schwerta written in the past 10 years by Herr Walter OPITZ, a native of Schwerta who has been living in Germany since 1946.


SHANE, Edgar
eMail address: Sje5@aol.com

I'm researching my great-grandfather Ernst August BARTSCH and my great-grandmother Anna Henriette TUMM BARTSCH. I've obtained the following information and translation: Ernst August Bartsch born at Jakobsdorf bei Kostenbluth Kreis Neumarkt Favins, Schlesien Regierung Bezirk Brestein in 23 May 1835. Deceased 21 December 1906. Anna Henriette Bartsch (maiden name Tumm) born 3 June 1843 Ninvunko (never heard of that city either) Kreis Cotsiesen (never heard of it). Regierung Bezirk Bromberg Germany. Deceased 10 October 1913. Both Ernst and Anna emmigrated to the US and ended up in Wisconsin. Please let me know if anybody has information on the above surnames, their birth villages or anything else of interest. Thank You.


SOBIERAJSKI, Mickey Joe
eMail address; fsobiera@syr.edu

I am researching my grandmother's family from Silesia. My parents are Daniel & Anna SHELLHAMMER, brothers, Josef and Georg SHELLHAMMER, my grandmother's name is Margaret. Margaret SHELLHAMMER was born 27 January 1902, emigrated to Amsterdam, Netherlands around 1922, married Martinus Kuyper in 1924 or 1925. Margaret emigrated to America in July 1925. I would like to find information about her parents (Daniel & Anna SHELLHAMMER) and grandparents if possible, don't know paternal grandparents' names. Margaret's grandmother (mother's mother name who raised her) was Anna WITTNER. Thanks.


TAYLOR, Marie
eMail address: lostbox@ivnet.com
(Evangelical Lutheran)

I am researching the LAUPITZ and TREUTLER families from lower Silesia. My great grandfather, Carl (Charles) Frederick LAUPITZ, was born 25 September 1819-1821? at Breslau, Schlesien, Prussia (now Wroclaw, Poland). He married Louisa Henrietta TREUTLER (Henrietta) circa 1848 probably at Bad Salzbrunn, Schlesien, Prussia (now Szczawienko, Poland). Louisa Henrietta TREUTLER was born 28 February 1826 at Bad Sazbrunn. There were eight children born to Carl and Henrietta. They were: Augusta, born 10 October 1849; Ernestine, born 7 July 1851; Wilhelm (William), born circa 1855; Maria (Mary), born 28 September 1857-1858?; Bertha, born circa 1859; Pauline, born 14 January 1861; and my grandmother Anna, born 2 September 1867. All of these children were born at or near Bad Salzbrunn except for my grandmother, Anna, who was born at LaSalle, LaSalle County, Illinois. The towns of Altwasser (now Stary Zdroj, Poland), Konradsthal / Conradsthal (now Konradow, Poland), and Waldenburg (now Walbrzych, Poland) have also been mentioned as possible birth places of these children. Carl and Henrietta emigrated to the United States departing on the steamership "Borussia" 6 June 1865 from Hamburg, Germany. They were living at Konradsthal / Conradsthal at the time of their emigration. They arrived 27 June 1865 in New York. From the ship's manifest, it listed a one year old child of Carl and Henrietta's named Anna. We have assumed that this child died and my grandmother was given her name. Louisa Henrietta TREUTLER had two brothers and two sisters. Their names were: Ernest, William, Ernestine, and Pauline. Of the four siblings, only William TREUTLER emigrated to the United States and that was in 1854. He died 23 January 1901 at Eau Gallie, Brevard County, Florida. From William TREUTLER'S last will and testament, probated 24 January 1901, it lists Ernest TREUTLER living at Konradsthal / Conradsthal, Ernestine TREUTLER OPITZ (deceased) from Altwasser, and Pauline TREUTLER WEIGIL (deceased) from Konradsthal / Conradsthal. We have not been successful at finding any records of the LAUPITZ or TREUTLER families from the LDS library since very few Evangelical Lutheran records from Silesia have been microfilmed. So, any information on the LAUPITZ or TREUTLER families previous to 1865 would be greatly appreciated.


WYSTRACH, Thomas
Bonn, Germany
eMail address: uzs8iw@uni-bonn.de

Is there any information about the family WYSTRACH from Upper Silesia? My grandfather, Heinrich WYSTRACH was born 1898 at Dambrau / Dabrowa. My great-grandfather, August Karl Wystrach was born 1867, my great-great-grandfather, Johannes WYSTRACH was born 1831 at Fruehauf / Ochodze / Ochotz and my great-great-great-grandfather, also Johannes WYSTRACH was born 1811 in Fruehauf. Thanks


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Research Aids and Suggestions:

  1. Unser Oberschlesin: This is the German language publication of the Landsmannschaft der Oberschlesier e. V. Bundesverband of Wiesbaden, Germany. This 16 page newspaper type publication (5 columns, 13 1/2 x 17 inches) was founded in 1950 with ISSN #0343-5113. It is not found in the FHL at Salt Lake City. It includes printed reports of activities of German organizations representing the following Oberschlesien Stadts and Kreise: Bielitz, Hindenburg, Gross Strehlitz, Cosel, Rosenberg, Loben-Guttentag, Oppein, Wanderer (Gielwitz / Beuthen), Königshütte, Laurahütte and Tarnowitz.

    While only carrying a few obituaries, it does provide details on Bundestreffens (gatherings/reunions). It provides monthy lists of birthday congratulations to dozens of subscribers, listing their name, birthday and current city or town of residence in Germany. It also contains ads of professionals willing to conduct research in Oberschlesien. To subscribe, send your request for current subscription price by postal mail to:

    Unser Oberschlesiien
    Postfach 22 29
    65012 Wiesbaden
    GERMANY

  2. Die Eheschliessungen in den Schlesischen Provinzialblättern (1785-1849) published in 1994 by Verlag Degner and edited by Uwe Kambach is now available at the Family History Library as a book. It covers about 40,000 persons (19,483 marriages). It lists husband's name, profession, place of marriage, wife's name, marriage date and source of the article

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