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Entries to date from submitters in January and February 1998:
- entry for KEYES, Patricia M., 21 January 1998
- entry for BARON, Pat, 4 February 1998
- entry for CONDE, Ralph, 4 February 1998
- entry for CRESPO, Elenore, 4 February 1998
- entry for DOBSCH, Tommy Frederick, 4 February 1998
- folow-up entry for ECKERT, Reinhard, 4 February 1998
- entry for HAMERLY, Michael J. (Mike), 4 February 1998
- entry for HANISCH, Hugo, 4 February 1998
- entry for HASTEROK, Maria, 4 February 1998
- entry for HILL, Russell C., 4 February 1998
- entry for LANGENBECK, Heide, 4 February 1998
- entry for RODE, Heinz W., 4 February 1998
- entry for WILSON, Sylvia, 11 February 1998
- entry for BEHRENDT, Renate, 16 February 1998
- replacement entry for CRESPO, Elenore, 16 February 1998
- entry for KLOSS, Leroy, 16 February 1998
- entry for MASYGA, Bernie, 16 February 1998
- entry for SISK, Lynne, 16 February 1998
- entry for FOEGE, Mary HEMPE, February 1998
- entry for MNOOKIN, Robert H., 22 February 1998
- addition for RODE, Heinz W., 7 February 1999
- new eMail address for LAMGENBECK, Heide, 1 April 2002


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BARON, Pat
email address: drbaron@gte.net


I am researching the family name of Baron. August Carl BARON and Louise KRETSCHMAR Baron married approximately August 1840. I have found baptismal records for 3 of the 6 children born in Muensterberg, Schlesien. On the 1st and earliest record it states 9 living female children. As Ionly knew of 2 females born earlier this leaves me 7 I knew nothing of. The children I know of are: Caroline Baron born 16 February 1837; August Carl Baron born 5 April 1848; Frances Baron born June 1838; Louis Theodor Baron born 24 March 1850; Auguste Emma Baron born 31 May 1846; and Theodor Oscar Oswald Baron born 13 August 1852. They came to America in 1854. I would be most thankful for any help. Thank you.



BEHRENDT, Renate
eMail address: Renate.Behrendt@toro.com


I am interested in obtaining any copy of church or civil records on my mother, born Hanna Else HOFFMANN on 26 August 1925 at Marklissa am Queis in Silesia. Her parents were Gustav and Klara HOFFMANN. The Polish name of the town is now Lesna. She has no copies of any records earlier than her marriage certificate from June 10, 1944, on which date she married Reinhold BEHRENDT in Marklissa. My mother and her parents were members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church.



CONDE, Ralph
eMail address: rjconde@his.com


I am looking for information on my great great grandfather and his family before he came the the US in 1852. Indications are that he came from the area of Breslaw. Also, information on a son born at Olbersdorf, and a grandson born at Frankenstein. The family members are: Florian RASCH I (born 1791); first marriage to Carolina SCHINDLER; 2nd wife: Barbara GUTKORN (1894-1843). The children were: Florian RASCH II (born 1819, Overdorf); he married Caroline NICKEL (born 1827); Paul Joseph RASCH (born 1850 at Frankenstein); Joseph RASCH (born 1821); Franz RASCH (born 1823); Robert RASCH (born 1832); Frances RASCH (born 1833); August RASCH (born 1836 at Olbersdorf); Adolph RASCH (born 1837); Alois RASCH (born 1840); and Julius RASCH (born 1842 at Olbersdorf). Any help will be appreciated.



CRESPO, Elenore
eMail address; EJCsRAC@webtv.net


I am looking for any information on my grandparents. My greatmother was HELENE RIEGER, born 8 July 1898 at Muensterberg (now Ziebice, Poland), died 5 August 1956 at Regensburg, Bavaria, Germany; married JOHANN KMITTA, circa 1918 at or near Ujest, Kreis Gross Strelitz, Silesia. His dates of birth, death and parentage are unknown. Her parents were MARIA BUCHAL, born 4 August 1867, died 6 Februray 1943 at Muensterberg; married FRANZ RIEGER, born 23 November 1867, died 28 July 1911 at Muensterberg. Any information on any of these names would be appreciated.



DOBSCH, Tommy Frederick
eMail address: DXSJ95A@prodigy.com


I am trying to find out about the ancestry of my Grandfather August Joseph DOBSCH, born 12 February 1864 at Neumarkt Prussia? His father's name was Joseph DOBSCH, born 23 October 1838 at an unknown location. I have been told that his wife's name was Annie SELZER?



ECKERT, Reinhard
Siegen, Germany
eMail address: ReinhardAr@aol.com


Thanks for posting my submission of August/September 1997. The mystery around the family ECKERT from Schloss Ellguth / Ligotha Zamecka is now clear. I had found six sisters and brothers of my grandfather and their children. Only one daughter of my grandaunt Marie is missing. This is my new submission: Ursula ECKERT born circa 1921 at Schloss Ellguth-Kreuzburg in Oberschlesien (Ligotha Zamecka-Kluzcbork in Upper Silesia now Poland). Her mother was Marie Eckert, not married, her grandparents were Gottlieb ECKERT, died 1929 and Beate DEUS, died 1941. Her mother had six sisters and brothers: Fritz, Paul, Marta, Richard, Gottfried and Hermann. Her mother worked as a nurse at Magdeburg, died 1978-1979. Ursula lived until 1945 at Schloss Ellguth, in a great red house, and emigrated to the USA, circa 1945. She is still living there. Is there any chance to find her? Any help would be appreciated. I am Silesian Researching: Eckert, Pirnke, Deus. Pfueller, Nowak, Beilig, Scholz, Breitenborn, Mundry, Leutert, Seja, Bragulla and Matussek



FOEGE, Mary HEMPE
eMail address: mwfoege@awebstation.net

(Evangelical Lutheran)

I am looking for genealogy information on my great-great grandparents, Friedrich HEMPE and his wife, Elizabeth MILDE. They lived at Gallhauser, Schlesien, Preussen when their son, Heinrich Herman HEMPE was born 23 February 1841. They were Evangelical Lutheran. I also have the city Pol(n)isch Hammer, Schlesian mentioned in some records. One Carl August HEMPE was born 9 August 1849, and a Johann Gottlieb HEMPE born 8 January 1851 in that city. Their parents are listed in church confirmation records in Milwaukee, Wisconsin as Johan Friedrich HEMPE and Helena STOLPER.
Webmaster's Note: According to Reference #5 below, during 1785-1849 there were 17 females named MILDE married at various Silesia locations and 7 males named Milde were married at Breslau (1799), Glogau (1842), Klein Dombrowka (1819) Neumarkt (1810) Sausenberg (1828) and Schmeideberg (1829). During that same period there were no HEMPE marriages but there were some marriages of the HEMPEL surname as early as 1818 . Have you considered looking for the Hempel surname in those records? It is a rare surname that does not have alternative spellings.


HAMERLY, Michael J. (Mike)
238 Harding Court, Louisville, Colorado 80027- , USA
eMail address: michael_hamerly@stortek.com


I looking for information for these surnames: HAMERLA, PAPKALA, GORGLIN, WIRZKA and WILKE. Joseph Hamerla married Marianna PAPKALLA in 1835 at Schriebersdorf, Silesia. The grandson of Joseph Hamerla, also named Joseph, emigrated to Wausau, Wisconsin, on the "USS California" in 1884 with his bride-to-be, Frances WILKE. Schriebersdorf is located 28 miles south of Oppeln, 7 miles north of Oberglogau in Neustadt Precinct. The Polish town name is Pisarzowice, in the powiat (Polish county) of Prudnik. A notation in the Silesian Geneological Atlas says "Catholic Christening Book, Death and Burial Book, 1772-1937". My questions are:
1. Does anyone else have information about these surnames?
2. How do I view the Catholic documents, referred to by the Silesian Geneological Atlas?
3. In some records, my cousin wrote "LDS Film 957133" What is this and how do I view it?
4. How can I make contact with present day occupants of Pisarzowice?
5. How can I search phone directories of towns in this region for references to the above names?



HANISCH, Hugo
eMail address; h_hanisch@hotmail.com

(Lutheran, Roman Catholic)

I am looking for my roots in Silesia. My grandfather Otto HANISCH came to South America from Patschkau, Upper Silesia. He was born in 1888 in Komorze (Kommern?) near Zerkow in Posen because of his father's appointment in a sugar factory, from Hedwig LUDWIG, born as far as I know in Mittelwalde, Glatz. Hugo HANISCH was born at Franckenstein in Schlesien, son of Emil Viktor Von HANISCH, commander at Glatz garnison and Dominika KURTZ born at Trebnitz. I will find out dates and complete names but I will appreciate any clue. In the family history it is stated that our origins are Austrian settled in Praha and the Bohemian Silesia from where they fled because of their Lutheran religion after the Prague's defenestration against the Catholic Habsburg. The last generations had been Roman Catholics.



HASTEROK, Maria
Germany
email address: gm.feierabend@t-online.de

(Roman Catholic)

I am looking for any information about the HASTEROK family. My grandfather was Johannes HASTEROK, born 24 November 1890 at Kadlub (Kreis Gross Strelitz, Opole, Upper Silesia); died in 1975 in Schramberg, Black Forrest. He was married to Emilie ZOK, born 1899; her mother was Marie ZOK. The brothers and sisters of my grandfather: Franz (born 1892), Anna (born 1895), Paul (born 1997), Albine, Hedwig, Elsa (born 1910), Emilie (born 1913). Grandfathers parents were Franz HASTEROK, born 16 December 1867 at Hechlau (Chechlo); married Johanna KAPITZA, born 22 November 1867 at Karlstal (Gross Strelitz); died March 29th 1917 at Gatsch. Franz sisters were Marianne, Josefa and Johanna. Johanna's sisters and brothers were Franziska, Katharina, Anton and Franz. The parents of Franz Hasterok were Johannes HASTEROK from Kablub and PANELITSCHEK. The parents of Johanna Kapitza were Andreas Kapitza, born 1845, Kadlub and Ludmilla Kapitza MANCZYK / MEINCZYK born 1848 at Kablub, married 3 October 1865 in the Roman Catholic church St. Michael at Angerbach (Gr. Strelitz). I am looking for relatives and for information s of my forefathers, when and how the HASTEROK family came from Sweden to Silesia. Thank you for your help! In case of being able to help somebody else on research, I offer my information for free.



HILL, Russell C.
7716 Wheelock Road, Fort Wayne, Indian 46835-
eMail address: RCH082131@aol.com

(Lutheran)

Fredrick Wilhelm MARTIN was born 30 November 1844 at Giesmannsdorf Silesia, Germany. He married Paulina SABIMALSKY 30 November 1869 (she was born 1842). He served in the war of 1866 and the Franco-Prussion war of 1870-71. Confirmed Lutheran. They had 3 children: 1. Emma Martin born 1870; 2. Emil Martin born 1872; and 3. Edith Martin born 1874. This entire family departed Germany in either 1881 or 1883. They first settled in Ottawa County Ohio, then to Briceton, Ohio 2 years later. Any help concerning German roots will be appreciated.



KEYES, Patricia M.
43753 Westridge Lane, Northville, Michigan 47167- , U.S.A.
eMail address: pkeyes@ameritech.net


I would like to learn the ancestry of John and Bertha BAUMERT. They were living in Silesia Prussia on 1 October 1836 when their daughter Augusta was born. Augusta was married to John ZACHOW in Appleton, Outagame County, Wisconsin 9 October 1858. She gave her name at that time as Augusta BUAMERT. Her parents were listed as John Baumert and Bertha. She was 22 years old at that time. Augusta and John Lived outside Appleton in a town called Greenville, Wisconson. They had eleven children. The birth records of the children gives their mothers name as Augusta FISCHER. I have tried to locate them all. Those that I have located have never heard of these ancestors and are really not interested. John died on 5 September 1891 in Greenville. Good friends, Fredrick FISCHER and Christopher LEMPKE signed the estate papers as wittnesses. Augusta died 2 July 1905 at Appleton Wisconsin. Her obituary says that she had been resident of Outagamie County Wisconsin for 55 years at her death. This would mean that she came there at the age of 14 years, in about the year of 1850. I can not locate her parents anywhere in Wisconsin from 1850 on. I now suspect that she came with someone else but I don't know who that could be. The death record of my grandfather Henry ZACHOW, game his mothers name as Augusta LEMPKE. She was very close to the Christopher and Anna LEMPKE family who were from Mecklenburg, Germany as well Fredrick and Amelia FISCHER who were from Prussia. They also lived on neighboring farms at Greenville Wisconsin. I have a copy of the citizenship papers of Fredrick FISCHER. It gives his place of birth as Prussia only, no name of a town. It says that he came over in the month of July in the year of 1854. This is four years after Augusta came over. I have yet to locate this record. It is very possible that whoever game the information for the obituary was wrong on the years Augusta had lived in Outagame County. I have been having trouble getting the obituaries of the FISCHER and LEMPKE people. I would like to learn what towns they were from in Prussia, and what their connection is to Augusta. Could it be that the wives of these men are Augusta's sisters? What ever happened to John and Bertha Baumert? I would love to hear of a location in Prussia that the name of Baumert may be found, and of anyone else who is researching this name.
Webmaster's Note: Since your ancestral daughter was born in Silesia in 1858 and there were 14 Baumert men married in Silesia between 1796 and 1845, I think this is where your submission should be. There were also 15 Baumert women married between 1785 and 1849 in Silesia. I suggest you contact the IGS (Immigrant Genealogy Society) and shend a few dollars to have then do a lookup of these female names and advise you of the towns thery were married in. That will be where the Baumert families were living and permit you to start searching specific churchbook microfilms.


KLOSS, Leroy
eMail address lkloss@nconnect.net


I am looking for help locating the ancestors of Rosalia FABISCH / FABISH, born abt 1855, married John WALDERA at North Creek, Wisconsin. Rosalia died at Milwaukee, Wisconsin 4 July 1936. Her Parents were Philip FABIAS and Mary SMIEC of Prussia. I believe it to be Popielowa or Siolkowicz Opole (Kries Opole?) John's grandfather Anthony WALDERA was also from the same area of Silesia. John and his father Paul WALDERA came to the US aboard the Allemania in 1872. Rosalia is a mystery. I need some Silesian help. Dobre Dzien



LANGENBECK, Heide
eMail address: langenbeck@charter.net

(Roman Catholic)

I am researching the following surnames: Robert KOTHE, born 1860 at Guhlau, Kreis Juhrau in Schlesien, died 1945 in Schlabitz (near Juppendorf and Glogau) married Emilie DENKE, born 30 September 1862 in Guhlau, died 15 January 1936 at Schlabitz. They were Catholic. These are my great grandparents, and I want to find out about their parents. Hermann Julius NÖTHEL / NOETHEL / NOTHEL born 11 January 1892 at Mückendorf /Mueckendorf by Sprottau, died 3 December 1974 at Limburg married to Hedwig Pauline KOTHE born 5/15/1889 in Guhlau, died 27 February 1951 at Limburg. I would like to learn about Hermann's parents. Hedwig and Hermann lived in Glogau where my mother, Hildegard WALLI NOTHEL was born on 16 July 1923. My mother was confirmed in the Schifflein Christi Lutheran church at Glogau in 1937 or 1938, but my grandmother was catholic. Gotthelf Max LIEBERT born 1866 at Freiberg, died 25 May 1930 at Freiberg, married Anna Helene BERNHARDT 17 November 1888 at Freiberg. Anna was born 16 August 1862 at Freiberg and died 26 May 1946 at Freiberg. I would like to learn about the parents of Gotthelf and Anna and if there are any living decendants. The family was Catholic.



MASYGA, Bernie
eMail address: bmasyga@win.bright.net


I am seeking information on the family of FILIP, Johan. He was the father of my mother (my grandfather). I don't know his birthdate, but my mother was born in 1889 at a town called Hirschfeld near Opole. I have been told that this village is now called Kaniow. He emigrated to the US in 1891 and lived at Little Falls, Minnesota.



MNOOKIN, Robert H.
eMail address: mnookin@law.harvard.edu


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RODE, Heinz W.
eMail address; Heinz_Rode@bc.sympatico.ca

(Evangelisch, Roman Catholic)

Ernst Gottlieb LANGNER (Evangelisch) my great grandfather was born 19 July 1854 at Strehlitz / Juliusburg, Kreis Oels, Silesia. Strehlitz had no Evangelical church; there was one at Juliusburg 2 kilometers to the south, so they probably attendet church there. He died at Berlin Tempelhof 30 December 1940. He had two brothers August LANGNER and Gottlieb LANGNER - they were later drafted to army service and sent to different locations. One was sent to Thuringen and one to Posen. Ernst was sent to Berlin and he later married at Berlin-Mariendorf to Marie Auguste Emilie RICHTER about 1880. His parents names are given as LANGNER, Karl Gottlieb, and HETZKE, Johanna Dorothea, both from Strehlitz. The Atlas of Silesia shows there are records for Juliusburg, EV. C.B., M.B., D.&B.B. 1691 - 1937. The FHC has no films for this location. I can find no information for the location of these records. Any suggestions appreciated.

I am also researching Jacob LANGNER, (Roman Catholic) was born 24 April 1839 at Schiorke / Rosenberg; died 04 June 1930. He married Hedwig PALLACH, born 07 October 1844 at Lowoschan / Rosenberg. I am searching for ancestor information for a researcher I met on the net. Thank you.



SISK, Lynne
eMail address: siskabob@mindspring.com

(Roman Catholic)

I am trying to find information on the birth place and family of Magdalena BUCHALE, daughter of Francisci and Veronica LORENZ BUCHALE. She was born in Silesia 23 July 1858. Magdalena married Johan GAERTNER, son of Anton and Franziska POHLER GAERTNER / GÄRTNER. Johan Gaertner was born at Tharnau and was the brother of Caroline KRETSCHMER, Anton, Josef, and Anna FRANKE. Johan and Magdalena emigrated to Albany, New York where they were married in 1882. The Kretschmers emigrated to Albany in 1874 and the Frankes in 1887. All families were Roman Catholic. There was no record of Magdalena Buchale's birth on the LDS microfilm of births from Tharnau or Gauers. I have no record of siblings.



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Research Aids and Suggestions:

  1. Unser Oberschlesin: This is the German language publication of the Landsmannschaft der Oberschlesier e. V. Bundesverband of Wiesbaden, Germany. This 16 page newspaper type publication (5 columns, 13 1/2 x 17 inches) was founded in 1950 with ISSN #0343-5113. It is not found in the FHL at Salt Lake City. It includes printed reports of activities of German organizations representing the following Oberschlesien Stadts and Kreise: Bielitz, Hindenburg, Gross Strehlitz, Cosel, Rosenberg, Loben-Guttentag, Oppein, Wanderer (Gielwitz / Beuthen), Königshütte, Laurahütte and Tarnowitz.

    While only carrying a few obituaries, it does provide details on Bundestreffens (gatherings/reunions). It provides monthy lists of birthday congratulations to dozens of subscribers, listing their name, birthday and current city or town of residence in Germany. It also contains ads of professionals willing to conduct research in Oberschlesien. To subscribe, send your request for current subscription price by postal mail to:

    Unser Oberschlesiien
    Postfach 22 29
    65012 Wiesbaden
    GERMANY

  2. Die Eheschliessungen in den Schlesischen Provinzialblättern (1785-1849) published in 1994 by Verlag Degner and edited by Uwe Kambach is now available at the Family History Library as a book. It covers about 40,000 persons (19,483 marriages). It lists husband's name, profession, place of marriage, wife's name, marriage date and source of the article



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