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Latest Update: 7 March 2000
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Entries to date from submitters, starting 26 February 2000:
- no entries since 26 January 200
- entry for CARLSSON, Heike, 26 February 2000
- entry for FONSECA-WOLLHEIM, Hermann da, 26 February 2000
- entry for GUTTENTAG, Henry, 26 February 2000
- entry for GWIZDOWSKI, Joseph, 26 February 2000
- entry for HONSCHA, Hartmut, 26 February 2000
- entry for KANIUT, Pete, 26 February 2000
- entry for LIEHR, Peter, 26 February 2000
- entry for NEMZEWK, Michael P., 26 February 2000
- entry for RECHENBERG Gordon, 26 February 2000
- entry for ROMMEISS, Wolfgang, 26 February 2000
- entry for SENFTLEBEN, Martin, Ph.D., 26 Februaray 2000
- entry for TSCHANNEN, Joan, 26 February 2000
- entry for KRETSCHMAR, Ida, 29 February 2000
- entry for LIVINGSTON, Eileen B., 29 February 2000
- entry for SCHULTZ, Jutta Karin POLENSKY, 29 February 2000
- entry for SVEHLA, Louise, 29 February 2000
- addition for LIVINGSTON, Eileen B., 7 March 2000
CARLSSON, Heike
eMail address: HCarlsson@t-online.de
(Roman Catholic)
I searching for every information about the town Gontkowitz /
Militsch, Silesia and about my grand-grand-fathers family:
KÄCHER (Kaercher / Karcher) and SANNERT. His name was Max
Oscar KÄCHER (Kaercher / Karcher), born at 21 February 1880
at Gontkowitz (catholic), his parents were: Carl KÄCHER
(Kaercher / Karcher) (shoemaker) and Agnes, geborn SANNERT. He
lived for a longer time on the island Finkenwerder / Hamburg,
married there and got several children. It is said that after his
divorce at 1924 he went back to Gontkowitz.
FONSECA-WOLLHEIM, Hermann da
Belgium
eMail address: hermann.da.fonseca-wollheim@pandora.be
I'm researching the WOLLHEIM family from Breslau, starting with
Jacob WOLLHEIM (originally perhaps PINSCHOWER or PINCZOWER),
living in the second half of the 18th century. He had four sons
who, probably all of them, moved to Berlin, Hamburg, Dresden or
other German towns: 1) Scholem WOLLHEIM, maried successively to
Sara / Sorel RAWITZ and Henriette KLECZEWSKA. Their children
were Caesar WOLLHEIM (shipping company on the Oder river and coal
merchant at Berlin), maried to Caroline POLLACK; Julius WOLLHEIM,
maried to Julie CLEMENT; Hermann WOLLHEIM; Louis WOLLHEIM; and
Jeanette WOLLHEIM, maried to Emanuel BENDIX. 2) Hirsch Jacob
WOLLHEIM, maried 1809 at Hamburg to Henriette GOLDSCHMIDT and
died at Hamburg 24 July 1834. Their children were Anton Edmund
WOLLHEIM; born at Hamburg 12 February 1810; went to school at
Breslau, died at Berlin 24 October 1884; Jacob WOLLHEIM, maried
to Adle Meurice from Brussels, died at Hamburg; Jeanette
WOLLHEIM; maried to ? MONCA; Moritz WOLLHEIM; Minna WOLLHEIM,
maried to MONCA; Hermann Johann WOLLHEIM, maried successively to
Maria OHRT and Emma Dorothea ECK; Rosalie WOLLHEIM.
3) Samuel WOLLHEIM, maried to GUTMANN. Their children were
Emanuel WOLLHEIM; Leopold WOLLHEIM; Edouard WOLLHEIM; Ferdinand
WOLLHEIM; Jeanette WOLLHEIM; maried with Jakob BLUMENTHAL.
Children: Marie Rebekka WOLLHEIM, maried with Adolf SCHNEIDER;
Julie WOLLHEIM, maried to RIEGNER; Emilie WOLLHEIM, maried with
Samuel STILLMANN; Fany WOLLHEIM, maried with Louis BERGER; and
Pauline WOLLHEIM; maried with BERGER. 4) Salomon WOLLHEIM,
maried to Rosalie OELSNER. Their children were: Bernhard
WOLLHEIM; Bessalie WOLLHEIM; married to Pauline HILLEL; Pauline
WOLLHEIM, maried to Abraham WEISLER; Alexander WOLLHEIM; Fritz
WOLLHEIM and Jacob WOLLHEIM. The coal merchant Caesar WOLLHEIM
had the following offspring: Hermine WOLLHEIM; maried to Otto
FEIST; children: Paul FEIST, Ernst FEIST; Hans FEIST; Martha
WOLLHEIM; maried to Max REICHENHEIN, children: Robert
REICHENHEIN; Ernst REICHENHEIN; Claus REICHENHEIN; David Emil
WOLLHEIM; Else WOLLHEIM, maried to Franz Oppenheim, children:
Franz OPPENHEIM; Martha OPPENHEIM; married to Ernst VON SIMON;
Kurt OPPENHEIM.
GUTTENTAG, Henry
eMail address: Hgutt@ix.netcom.com
I am looking for the history and citizenship of my Grandparents.
Grandmother Gertrude WOLFF (Maiden name WACHSNER) was possibly
born at Mikolajow, Poland. Birth date 1 March 1879. My
Grandfather Arthur WOLFF was possibly born at Josefsdorf,
Germany. His birthdate is 9 December 1874. Both lived and
brought up a family in Breslau, Germany (Now Wroclaw,
Poland). They fled to China in 1939. Any information regarding
my other sets of Grandparents on the Guttentag's side would be
appreciated. I have very little information since they perished
in the concentration camps of Worlds War II. They only thing we
know is that lived outside Breslau,Gemany within a 1 hour drive.
and had a son. My father was Bruno GUTTENTAG.
GWIZDOWSKI, Joseph
eMail address: gwizdowski_@xoommail.com or j.gwizdowski@bigfoot.com
I have evidence to suggest my great-grandfather, Antoni KOSCINSKI
(born 1853) lived at Dobromil, Prussia, within Silesia. I have
located Dobromil, approx 11 kilometers southwest of Glogan (now,
Glogaw, Poland) in Silesia. His wife was Maryanna LULA (born
1855) and I am also researching that name. They immigrated to
the U.S. in 1889-1890 with their 9 children and I am trying to
determine the most likely ports of egress / entry they would have
taken. Any information and suggestions GREATLY appreciated!
HONSCHA, Hartmut
Brazil
hhonscha@starinfo.com.br
Suche nach Verwandschaft zwischen diese beide Stammbäume :
1-Hartmut HONSCHA, geborn in Reichenbach (Eulengebirge) 13 JUne
1939. Vater: Hans Werner HONSCHA, geborn Gross Ellguth
(Euleng) 10 May 1910 (wohnt noch in Brasilien). Grossvater: a,
Robert Wilhelm HONSCHA, geborn Breslau l December 1879, und
gestorben Breslau 3 April 1925. UGVater: Christian HONSCHA,
geborn Wundschutz 14 June 1855 und gestorben Breslau 2 February
1882. 2-Siegward HONSCHA, geborn Breslau 3 August 1941. Vater:
Walter Honscha geborn Breslau 4 June 1904. Grossvater Michael
Honscha geborn Jerolsch=FCtz (datum unbekannt). Wo kann ich
weitere Informationen bekommen. Grösse aus Brasilien.
Hartmut.
KANIUT, Pete
eMail address: pjcrkan@zekes.com
(Roman Catholic)
I am looking for ancestors/relatives from the town of Brinnitz
(sic - correct locality is Brinitz according to Joe Riemmann).
My great grandfather was VICTOR KANIUT. My grandfather was A.
Max KANIUT, born 22 February 1861. They were Catholic. There
were I believe, 7 brothers, Some were over 7 foot tall. They had
a horse ranch or farm and raised horses for the Prussian Cavalry.
I have been trying for almost ten years to find something back
there, but have had no luck. The name is unusual and I have a
shooting score book from the Prussian army and it is spelled the
same on it in about 1883. The entries are signed by a Von RECLAU.
We had thought that maybe the name had been changed when my
grandfather came to the US. But I feel this shows that the name
was not changed. Also, My grandfather could speak 7 languages,
and we always felt that he would not have let that happen. I
hope that there is someone who can help me find the connection to
get some of the ties back there that I need. My grandfather
married Anna RUST at Hamburg on 5 September 1888 and immigrated
to the US, sailing on the steamer ship "Wilhelm II" 9 September
1888. They had met in College at Kassel which they were both
attending. Her father was a professor there. Some of the
brothers names were, I believe, Thomas, Mathias, ??. Any help
will be greatly appreciated.
KRETSCHMAR, Ida
eMail address: famgram@hotmail.com
Joe: Our local German genealogy society suggested I eMail you
regarding my search for vital, church, etc. records to document
my husband's grandparents families in Silesia before 1900. His
grandmother was Anna Maria Elizabeth MULLER, daughter of Francis
and Johanna [DIETRICK] MULLER. She was born at Sagen (now
Zargen, Poland) and was Catholic. His grandfather was Carl W.
SCHREIBER, son of Wilhelm and Ernestine [KREGAR] SCHREIBER, born
at Langenbilau, now Bielawa, and was Lutheran. Carl and Anna
married in Germany 11 Feb 1894 and had two daughters before
immigrating to the US in 1898 and 1899. The daughters were
Freida Johanna born 1895 and Emma Freida Martha, born 4 July
1896. I don't know the city of birth for the children or the
marriage place. Carl and Anna worked at Forst to earn passage
money. I have tried for records in the places they lived, at the
Dresden Stadtarchiv and the LDS Library, all to no avail. I
really need to be pointed in a new direction and will greatly
appreciate any help.
Webmaster's Note: Church records are usually the most
important part of the Family History Library (FHL) holdings, but
are actually only a small part of the FHL collections and a tiny
minority of the many topics in the FHL Catalog. However I would
suggest you search the Catholic records at Langenbilau (now
Bielawa) for your Kregar, Muller and Schrieber lines. Strange as
it may seem, something like former Lutherans appearing in a
Catholic churchbook are actually known to have occured in
Silesian genealogy, when the ruling nobility suddenly changed its
religious allegience. Is it possible your locality "Sagen" was
really Sagan, Schlesien? If so, church records exist for
it on FHL microfilm for your periods of interest.
Yet IF no church records exist for the years in question at your
localities, you must find new research directions. You have a
very common surname (Muller) and one that is sometimes mistaken
for a given name (Dietrick) in computer databases. But still you
have Schrieber to work with and two rather unique surnames
(Kregar and Dietrick). Thus it may not prove impossible to get
at your answers thru them. One of the 5 Dietrick genealogies
listed in the FHL "surname search" section point to a line of
that surname in Wuerttemburg. 25 Schrieber listings also exist
there with some specific localities shown.
On the FEEFHS Website, Kregar appears twice as a Slovenia
(germanic, former Austro-Hungarian Empire) surname, including one
Maribor archival "fond". Also by entering your surnames into
the FEEFHS WebSite Index (see navigation links above and below on
all pages here), 10 listings appear for Schrieber and a
potentially useful Dietrick surname genealogy is found on an
Ahnenstammkartei microfilm. Some persons named Dietrick are also
found immigrating to San Francisco (in the huge, unique San
Francisco Call online database).
The M&uller ( Mueller / Muller) is not hopeless (as a common
surname) either, especially when using a Silesien marriage index
(see below: Die Eheschliessungen in den Schlesischen
Provinzialblättern (1785-1849)) - 4 males named Muller
were married at Sagan (1817-1828). Among the 175+ Segan
marriages listed, one Müller female was married there too.
These are obviously not the most direct sources. But with
nothing else to go on, even such slim possibilities would seem
better than nothing!
LIEHR, Peter
eMail address: p.liehr@worldnet.att.net
I am searching for children born to LIEHR, Carl Samual. He was
born 12 June 1785 at Gruenberg, Silesia and was married to
Johanna Juliane KLEINDT born 24 December 1804. Please direct
all information to me.
LIVINGSTON, Eileen B.
eMail address: EBLiving65@aol.com
I am seeking information on William Frederick Valentine SCHULTZE
who died in Elk county, Pennsylvania USA in 1849. It is possible
he was the SCHULTZE who immigrated to America on the brig
"Alexander" on 28 November 1815. As a background story in his
Will, he said that in 1812, the Prussians took from him 136,000
franks; also there was a grant of a pension settled on him for
500 thalers yearly to be paid by the Treasurer at the City of
Warsaw, Poland. He said he only received 5 years of this
pension, the balance was yet due. Also, 6,400 franks were owed
to him by the French Government for services rendered as a
Commisary General at the Police of Osnabruck and at Magdeburg
during the years of 1810, 1811, 1812, 1813, and part of 1814.
SCHULTZE was listed in the 1840 US Census for Clearfield county
Pennsylvania as a male between the ages of 70 and 80. I recently
learned that he was a born Silesian and on the Prussian War
Council. He had four children: Edward C., Henry F. W.,
Gustavus, and Amelia. I would appreciate any information on
SCHULTZE.
Webmaster's Note: Did he really have those four children all
by himself, or was there a woman who somehow helped him in some
small way!? Seriously, leaving out what you might know of the
full name (especially her maiden name) of his wife is like tying
one of your research hands behind you. If you have her maiden
name you would be wise to list it, as there are almost as many
record searchers seeking ancestral data on female lines as there
are those seeking male lineages.
Response from Eileen: As for finding and identifying his
wife, in about 8 years of research, I have never been able to
identify a wife for W.F.V. SCHULTZE in the USA. In searching the
FHL "IGI", I came up with an entry for an Eduard Carl SCHULTZE,
christened 28 July 1805, Charite Kirche, Berlin Stadt,
Brandenburg, Preussen; Father: SCHULZ; Mother: Anne Louis
VOLKMANN, birthplace, Buchholz. The son's name in USA was
"Edward Charles Schultze." But I have no proof that this is the
same person--just a possibility. I am of the opinion that the
father, W.F.V. SCHULTZE, just used the name, "SCHULTZE."
NEMZEWK, Michael P.
eMail address: mnemzek@nlamerica.com
We are searching for information regarding my great-grandfather.
His name in Germany was thought to be Alex NIEMCZYK Alex and the
name was changed to NEMZEK. He immigrated to the US at age 16.
He was born at Oppeln, Slazian (sic) Germany 16 July 1865. When
he immigrated to the US, he lived at Casselton, North Dakota with
relatives (unknown). He married Wilhelmina KOWALSKI born at
Selginau, West Prussia, Germany. She was born 7 March 1869. She
also immigrated to the US as a teenager and lived with relatives
(unknown) at Casselton, North Dakota. They met and later married
5 October 1886. We would appreciate any clues or information=
that you may have.
RECHENBERG Gordon
eMail address: gordonr@interworx.com.au
My great grandfather, Wilhelm Friedrich RECHENBERG, came to
Australia in 1855. He was born at Lauban, Silesia, Prussia in
1823. Wilhelm was married to Anna Maria ALLOVIGE at Schmollin
1854. I have not been able to find any listing of her family
name any where.
His father was Johann Gotlieb RECHENBERG and his mother Johanna
BEILSCHMIDT. Johann's profession was listed as "Excise Officer"
residing at Lauban in 1855. I have found a listing of a marriage
Johann Gotlieb RECHENBERG to Johanne Christiane Beathe BOTHE on
26 October 1840 at Lauban Schlesien. This is perhaps Johann's
second marriage? Or perhaps a sibling of Wilhelm? I would be
grateful for any help.
ROMMEISS, Wolfgang
Berlin, Germany
eMail address: Rommeiss@zedat.fu-berlin.de
I am looking for anchestors of Reinhold Karl Robert HENTSCHEL,
born 1859 at Sulau, district Militsch-Silesian. His parents were
Christian Hentschel and Rosalie Hentschel, nee WINKLER.
Christian Hentschel was born 1828 at Sulau, Silesian. Both died
in America before 1915. I search for any information about
sisters, brothers or children of both. Thank you.
SCHULTZ, Jutta Karin POLENSKY
10539 2nd Street, Gheen, Minnesota 55771-, USA
eMail address: juttakar@spacestar.net
(Roman Catholic / Seventh Day Adventist)
I am researching the families of M&uller (with an Umlaut over the
u), POLENSKY and GÜTTLER (with umlaut) who were from
Leutmannsdorf and Schweidnitz, Silesia, Germany. My Father Paul
Willi POLENSKY was born 12 September 1929 at Leutmannsdorf,
Silesia, Germany and he was the son of Fritz Alfred Alois
Polensky. Fritz Alfred Alois POLENSKY (born 23 September 1893 at
Schweidnitz) married Ida Anna GÜTTLER 28 February 1916 at
Leutmannsdorf, Silesia, Germany. Their children were: Fritz,
Elfriedl, Hedwig, Gunther, Paul (my dad), Alfred, Ruth, Walter,
and Martha (died young from an illness). Fritz Alfred Alois
Polensky learned bricklaying and received a diploma in
Schweidnitz before the two World Wars. He was a sergeant in WW-I
and Medical technician in WW-II. After World War II he moved his
entire family to Versmold, West Germany where he lived until his
death in 1970. His religious affiliation was Catholic until he
was converted to the Seventh-day Adventist church.
I am really interested in finding out anything I can about his
father and mother. His father was Adolph MÜLLER (with
umlaut). All we know about Adolph Müller is that he was a
master weaver in a factory at Kassel, Hessen, Germany. Before he
moved to Kassel he lived in Schweidnitz, Germany. He never
married Fritz's mother and may have married someone else. He was
most likely a Catholic. Fritz's mother was Cecilia POLENSKY,
hence Fritz's last name. He never took his father's name. We
know virtually nothing about her. Evidently she gave Fritz to her
parents and let them raise him. He saw very little of her. She
may have even married several times and could have immigrated to
the U.S. We just don't know for sure.
Ida Anna's Mother was Ernestine Jaeckel GÜTTLER. We are
unsure of her fathers name. They lived in the same area though
and actually lived with Fritz and Ida Anna. Ida Anna had 2
brothers one who was a lumberjack whose name was Heinrich
GÜTTLER, Alfred GÜTTLER, and 2 sisters, Anna
GÜTTLER GLATZER (lived at Leutmannsdorf), and Zelma
GÜTTLER KASPAREK. If there is ANY information out there
about this family and relatives I would appreciate any help in
finding them. It is hard for me as I live in a remote area and
have no access to genealogical information. Thank you very much
and you can contact me by eMail or postal mail.
Webmaster's Note: Have you tried looking for your
Güttler and Polensky surnames in the FEEFHS Website Index
(see the navigation links at the top and bottom of the page)? I
see a Silesian Namenbuch reference (usually it tells you what
locality the name is first found) and several microfilm
references to G&uttler genealogies and one reference to a Pommern
record searcher with a Polinsky in their line. There is also one
each Müller and "von Polezinsky" marriage at Schweidnitz -
ref: see Die Eheschliessungen in den Schlesischen
Provinzialblättern (1785-1849) below.
SENFTLEBEN, Martin, Ph.D.
Deutsche homepage Das
Kirchenjahr, English
homepage
eMail address: DrMartinus@gmx.net
I have started looking for the roots of my family. My father,
Gottfried SENFTLEBEN, was born at Gr=FCnberg (Schlesien). The
earliest known ancestor is Ernst Wilhelm Senftleben, born 6
December 1807 in Gr=FCnberg, date of death unknown, married to
Johanne Henschel 31 July 1839. One of their children was
Traugott Johannes Senftleben, born 25 November 1846 at Gr=FCnberg
and married Johanna Sigge 31 March 1880. One of their children
was Heinrich Gotthard Senftleben, born 12 July 1882, who married
Margarete Gertrud VALENTIN (born 13 November 1891 at Guben) on 4
May 1911. I live in Germany, but as a beginner in this area and
quite active on the Internet I hope to get some help from this
end.
SVEHLA, Louise
Chicago, Illinois, USA
eMail address: star_shine_3@yahoo.com
I am looking for information on my great-great-grandparents:
Johann Nathan PRATSCH, born 23 May 1817 at Alstadt, Prussia, and
died 11 August 1888 at Oshkosh, Wisconsin. He married (1851 or
earlier) Anna Marie PRESSFREUND, born 5 July 1826 at Neustadt,
Prussia, and died 5 October 1870 at Oshkosh, Wisconsin. They
emigrated from Prussia aboard the ship "Balticus" from Bremen to
New York, arriving 19 Jul 1853. They travelled with their infant
son, Emil PRATSCH, (born 21 November 1851 Prussia, died 12
September 1882 at Oshkosh, Wisconsin). They were in settled in
Oshkosh, Wisconsin by 1855 and had seven more children:
Gustav G. (born 8 September 1853, died Nov 1930); Anna (born
September 1855, died 1944); Alvina (born 1858, died ?); John, Jr.
(born 9 September 1859, died 2 September 1910); Mary F. (born
August 1862, died 1940); Victoria E. (born August 1864, died
1955) and Josephine (born September 1866, died 1957).
The death certificate for Johann Nathan PRATSCH shows his parents
as Ignatz and Victoria PRATSCH. The sources stating their home
villages of Alstadt and Neustadt list them as being located in
Prussia or Austria. Family story tells me that these two towns
were across the river from one another. My first instinct was
the area around Vienna, Austria because the Danube flows through
it. But after doing some research, the area around Breslau,
Silesia also seems possible because the Oder River flows through
it. I would be very interested in exchanging information
about the PRATSCH and PRESSFREUND families and to learn about
Neustadt and Alstadt. Thank you.
TSCHANNEN, Joan
eMail address: tsch@ndak.net
I am looking for information on Alfred Oscar Hermann LEHMANN born
March 17 1863 at Breslau, Silesia, Prussia (now Wroclaw, Poland).
His parents were Leopold LEHMANN and Henrietta WEIFE. He was the
youngest of six children and the only boy. He sang in the Royal
Opera and had a beautiful baritone voice. He was a carpenter and
lathe turner and made billard balls out of ivory. He emigrated
to the US shortly after WW I started. Any information would be
appreciated. I will share my information.
See also:
- SILRL-981 for January/February
1998 entries,
- SILRL-982 for March, April and
May 1998,
- SILRL-983 for June/July 1998 (no
August entries)
- SILRL-984 for September 1998 (no
entries October 1998-January 1999)
SILRL-992 for May
1999 and
SILRL-992 thru October
1999 and
SILRL-201 thru January
2000
Research Aids and Suggestions:
- Unser Oberschlesin: This is the German
language publication of the Landsmannschaft der Oberschlesier
e. V. Bundesverband of Wiesbaden, Germany. This 16 page
newspaper type publication (5 columns, 13 1/2 x 17 inches) was
founded in 1950 with ISSN #0343-5113. It is not found in the FHL
at Salt Lake City. It includes printed reports of activities of
German organizations representing the following Oberschlesien
Stadts and Kreise: Bielitz, Hindenburg, Gross Strehlitz, Cosel,
Rosenberg, Loben-Guttentag, Oppein, Wanderer (Gielwitz /
Beuthen), Königshütte, Laurahütte and
Tarnowitz.
While only carrying a few obituaries, it does provide details on
Bundestreffens (gatherings/reunions). It provides monthy lists
of birthday congratulations to dozens of subscribers, listing
their name, birthday and current city or town of residence in
Germany. It also contains ads of professionals willing to
conduct research in Oberschlesien. To subscribe, send your
request for current subscription price by postal mail to:
Unser Oberschlesiien
Postfach 22 29
65012 Wiesbaden
GERMANY
- Die Eheschliessungen in den Schlesischen
Provinzialblättern (1785-1849) published in 1994 by
Verlag Degner and edited by Uwe Kambach is now available at the
Family History Library as a book. It covers about 40,000 persons
(19,483 marriages). It lists husband's name, profession, place
of marriage, wife's name, marriage date and source of the
article. A hard copy is in the stacks at the the FHL.
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